Why did they leave paperwork behind? Might that paperwork be pertinent? Might some of it illuminate the motives and goals of the people in the compound? This is extraordinarily careless. Or is it that authorities want some of this evidence to go away, so as to downplay some aspects of this story and cause them to be forgotten?
NEW DEVELOPMENT: Authorities have partially bulldozed the #NMCompound – trailer that was the main dwelling on the property has been dragged out and seized. ammo/bulletproof vest/paperwork remain. @NBCNews pic.twitter.com/yGDV1I8wYa
— Gadi Schwartz (@GadiNBC) August 15, 2018
“Amalia compound destroyed after raid,” KOB.com, August 15, 2018:
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – The remote compound in Amalia, New Mexico, where five adults and 11 children were found after a raid by law enforcement earlier this month has been razed to the ground.
Property owner Jason Bader said there was a court order allowing the seizure of a stolen trailer that made up part of the compound….
P.Copson says
Nobody destroys a crime scene so soon unless they want to destroy the evidence of their own culpability.
Alien Republican says
(+1)
revereridesagain says
Reminds me of the Mexican federales burning the Matamoros drug cult torture shack in 1989 allegedly because they were scared of the “demons”. Wonder what kind of “demons” these “authorities” were afraid would get loose.
Kepha says
I understand some of the fears those Mexican Federales might have felt. Much of the world sees all madness or disorder as demonic.
When I was a consular officer in Thailand, there was a schizophrenic young woman from the States who got the idea to walk from Bangkok to Saigon. She wandered onto the Sattahip naval base (Thai), and might well have gotten herself shot had not the senior member of the Thai shore patrol figured that a bunch of strapping young Thai men could easily seize a young woman burdened by a huge bag and clothing appropriate to the Texas panhandle in midwinter. Well, when the Thai intelligence people found they had an American schizophrenic rather than a Vietnamese spy (the girl was of Viet origin), they turned her over to the civil authorities and had them contact the consular section at AmEmbassy Bangkok.
In the meantime, the girl’s mother had been contacting US diplomatic missions all over the Far East trying to see if her extremely vulnerable daughter had shown up. Well, AmmEmbassy Bangkok matched up the mother’s report with what we knew of the girl nabbed in Sattahip, and made arrangements for the girl to be picked up in Sattahip, held in the local mental hospital in Bangkok, and turned over to her mother as soon as her mother landed in country (we also negotiated that the poor girl would not be punished for overstaying her visa).
I was asked to go pick the girl up and deliver her to Bangkok. I felt real important with a driver, and a national employee to help with the official paperwork. We were received as if I were the Ambassador himself by the local magistrate, and then went to the local police lockup.
Imagine three large cells arranged so a single police officer at a desk can supervise all three from a central vantage point. On the left, were the local Thai pickpockets, drunks, and worse; on the right, a group of Vietnamese boat people picked up on the beach. Both of these groups were cowering against the back walls of their cells like sheep avoiding a dog; in the middle sat our poor schizophrenic still dressed for winter in the Texas Panhandle with her enormous bag, and sitting impassively like the Buddha himself. The officer watching the cells was shewing his fingernails to the nub. As soon as I showed up, the Thai and Viet detainees immediately start yammering away at the tops of their voices and as anxious as the day was long. I caught snatches of the Thai for “insane”, and “demon”.
The police chief was very pleased to release the girl to consular custody. But when the girl got out into the parking lot, she refused to get in the car with me, insisted she did nothing wrong, and she intended to continue her trek to Viet Nam. I then told her very plainly that she would either go back to Bangkok with me, or the police would be completely within their rights to throw her back in the pokey for violating terms of her visa.
The several officers and their chief, who were in the parking lot, and with whom I had been communicating either through my Thai assistant or in my own rudimentary Thai, revealed that they understood my threat to the young lady perfectly, and let out a very audible, collective gasp.
We got the girl back to Bangkok and picked up by her very jet-lagged mother. In the future, when they make a movie exposing the bad treatment of the mentally ill, I am sure Uncle Kepha will win a slot as one of the villains. But what was struck home to me was that both the Thai, with their established religion of Theravada Buddhism, and the Vietnamese, who are supposedly liberated by the hypermodernism of Marxism-Leninism, were both subject to a superstitious fear of the mad.
Michael Copeland says
The apartment of the San Bernardino killers was not properly investigated. Press were allowed all over it.
wm1 says
Correct: None are so blind as those who refuse to see. Willful ignorance on parade…AGAIN and FOREVER. It’s one of many ways entire civilizations perish. Ours (America and the West) is next in line.
No Muzzies Here says
This was no accident. The authorities do not want the contents of those papers being published for all to see. They might reveal the full extent of the depravity of what was going on there.
This way, the whole incident is being consigned to oblivion. You can be sure the media will never talk about it ever again.
mortimer says
The authorities are afraid that the documents would reveal the INACTION and POLITICAL CORRECTNESS of the authorities in dealing with a LETHAL THREAT.
The authorities have put POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AHEAD of the SAFETY OF SOCIETY… their first responsibility.
mummymovie says
You said it, mort- Inaction. It also speaks to the ineptitude of the authorities, and begs the question: “How could this have been going on for so long?” And furthermore on land they didn’t own, right outside of the tourist destination of Taos? Why didn’t authorities act when children were reported missing? Insane, and a real embarrassment they want to go away for good, and as fast as possible.
Carolyne says
Typical behavior of the DOJ. They are corrupt and only wish to impeach a duly elected President. They have no interest in stopping the Islamic invasion.
mortimer says
There are 22 Islamic Jihad Training Camps in America – March 25, 2017
https://crtxnews.com/22-islamic-jihad-training-camps-america-one-state/
It is confirmed that there are over 22 Jihadi Training Camps in the United States of America, but the FBI says there is nothing that can be done about them.
These training camps have been connected to Muslims of America (MOA) and belong to Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistan Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda-related branch. These camps are nothing new, as at least 19 of them were established as early as 2012.
FBI documents obtained by “The Clarion Project” in 2007 detailed the Texas enclave.
The organization says it has a network of 22 “villages” around the U.S., with Islamberg as its main headquarters in New York. TheClarion Project obtained secret MOA footage showing female members receiving paramilitary training at Islamberg. It was featured on the Kelly File on FOX News Channel in October. A second MOA tape released by Clarion shows its spokesman declaring the U.S. to be a Muslim-majority country.
A 2007 FBI record states that MOA members have been involved in at least 10 murders, one disappearance, three firebombings, one attempted firebombing, two explosive bombings and one attempted bombing. It states:
“The documented propensity for violence by this organization supports the belief the leadership of the MOA extols membership to pursue a policy of jihad or holy war against individuals or groups it considers enemies of Islam, which includes the U.S. Government. Members of the MOA are encouraged to travel to Pakistan to receive religious and military/terrorist training from Sheikh Gilani.”
The document also says that, “The MOA is now an autonomous organization which possesses an infrastructure capable of planning and mounting terrorist campaigns overseas and within the U.S.” ~Clarion Project
simpleton1 says
We need the right prosecutors, judges, in place, for the most effect.
“It is confirmed that there are over 22 Jihadi Training Camps in the United States of America”,
That is what they think.
That will be what they only know about.
Would that be full time camps? What about part time camps?
How many more below the “radar”?
What about camps by innocent events, used as a cover.
After Obama’s systems, are Trumps systems, getting into gear, giving enough rope to hang many, and getting fired up for an eventual good clean up?
Or is the bureaucracy and systems dragging their feet and still acting as cover?
Will a “Pearl Harbour” need to happen to galvanize action?, or will it move to an appeasement.
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle. Sun Tzu
We must know who and what we stand for !
We must know and understand how islam works !
Terry Gain says
It is hard to believe that the authorities would destroy evidence but then again we have been living in a bizarro world for nearly 17 years.
Instead of ending the Jihad, 9/11 galvanized it. Jihadists attacked the financial and military headquarters of the United States and, but for Todd Beamer and his cohorts on Flight 93, woukd have also hit the seat of government, only to have the mentally deficient President of the United States respond by proclaiming that the ideology which motivated the attacks was, incredibly, a religion of peace.
Bush stood on the rubble in Manhattan and said those who did this would hear from America. They heard you Mr. Bush. And they also heard from America when she elected your Islamophilic successor who did his best to make America defenceless from the Jidad.
It is hardly surprising that the jihadists have set up terrorist trying camps in America. The people have permitted it. I surprised that the Jihadists aren’t receiving government grants for their compounds.
The Jihadists are winning and will continue to win until all adherents of the ideology which produces jihadists are refused entry. As a first step.
simpleton1 says
Yes Terry Gain.
First we do not know islam, as it deludes us as a religion of peace when it is really a political system of “submission”.
The founders of the USA had done a lot of study, thinking, reasoning, discussion, which lead to the Independence of the USA.
They knew who they were ! They knew their history.
That carried through when they became truly aware of what islam was about.
Knowing the enemy, reading the koran, set the course for success in the Barbary Wars.
A simplified version of the Barbary Wars
https://www.politifact.com/barbary/
USA has forgotten a lot of its history! and/or it has be “revised” and so doomed to repeat to lose.
Knowing islam, koran, hadith sira, “Reliance of the Traveller” its proclamations, its history, and its morals, particularly its lying system.
Taqiyya, permissible lies, deceit to hide such deeds.
Tawriya, appearing to agree but muslims are in their minds on another subject, inshallah (God willing).
Kitman, ommission lying, by quoting peaceful verses, though they know they are abrogated.
Muruna, by appearing contrary, like drinking, to hide a muslims real intentions.
Squirrels, Diversion of topic.
Tu quoque You or they, did it too.
Until it is figured, as Sun Tzu above points out, you are more than doomed.
However thanks for the few, a remnant, like Robert Spencer, Hugh Fitzgerald, and the many contributors, and then many others like, Lauren Southern, Stefan Moliniux, Tommy Robinson, sacrificing big parts of their lives.
May we also be motivated to spread the understanding of islam, and reaffirm the good in our culture.
Then all things will automatically flow, like stopping muslim immigration, as the Barbary Wars were in first stopping payments, then onto USA’s success.
gravenimage says
I think this is ineptitude. If it were deliberate, law enforcement would at least destroy the evidence, instead of leaving it around for journalists and the property owners to find.
Watcher 87 says
See Robert Spencer’s new book for how islam works
Sam says
WOW. Police is helping the enemy who wants them killed. How did we come to this point to whitewash Islam at all costs.
Just like Las vegas, Boston and other attracts we do everything to make sure terror is not related to Islam even all the terror attracts are committed by Muslims.
Some say that America is waking up to Islam. I don’t see it at all.
Garfield says
Well, which individual cop wants to risk his life confronting Islam when no one around them will back then up? Islam intimidates. Sadly, leftist liberals aid and abet the criminal psychopathic cult that Islam is.
Islam is a DEATH CULT.
NO ONE NEEDS ISLAM.
Jay says
It seems to me this was not exactly “razing” of the site, but rather a frantic search for some kind of incriminating evidence linking Obama or other corrupt officials to these terrorists. If these terrorists had some such evidence they would have tried to keep it with them just in case things went south as they already have. So we’d have to expect there were corrupt bureaucratic operatives who wanted to get to that evidence before the police did. It could have been a police action or it could have been ordered by NSA, CIA or other “alphabet soup” agencies. This is not an “accidental bulldozing,” we know that much.
Mac-101 says
Amen
somehistory says
There was another time when important papers were left behind, but I’m having trouble remembering which one of the terror attacks ti involved.. Was it Benghazi?
OT: Was the stabbing of a 14 year old girl, by a 14 yr old boy, in a small town in OK, a terror attack? It happened in school when all of the kids were assembled for the new school year, and it is reported that the two did not know each other The father of the boy has gotten a lawyer, and the boy has not answered any questions.
My guess: yes. Might be wrong, but at first read this morning, can’t help but think it looks like it.
Indiana Tom says
A literal cover up.
BEETA says
We are not hearing about these children. Were these kidnapped kids or did they belong to this nasty muslims? I only heard the kids were picked up by cps and in hospitals but nothing about who they were and if they had been kidnapped from their homes. If they were why in the hell did they let these muslims go.? I have been noticing that when these muslims commit crimes they are not punishing them like they do the American citizens. Just a slap on the wrist and turned loose like they did in this case. I think it is liberal judges and liberal states that are responsible for not punishing these people for the crimes they are committing.
gravenimage says
Authorities bulldoze New Mexico jihad compound, leave ammo, paperwork behind
…………………
This is slovenly police work *at best*.
Lucky says
Have Americans lost their will 2 survive ?
Joe says
So they had stolen property, the trailer, and squatting on property. The property owner couldn’t get them evicted. The trailer owner has obviously suffered property loss. We hear nothing about restitution. The offender is a prominent Muslim. With such little regard for the law, why are they be elected to be the law?
paul budrunas says
Does no one else remember that three days after 9-11 the site was bulldozed and all the debris was carted off tp some unknown site for storage? Talk about a cover up!!!
libertyORdeath says
There were human remains that turned out to be a kidnapped kid on that land…how could it possibly be procedure in a case like that to destroy the scene? Things are getting out of hand.
DirkaDirka says
This one sure brought out the tinfoil hat crowd. The guy says there was body armor, but does not show it. He says there were papers, but does not show it. Might have been junk mail for all we know. The COMPOUND looked like an absolute mess to begin with. He did point out probably less than 50 assorted ammunition cartridges. Guess what that does not necessarily constitute evidence. The feds are notoriously bad when it comes to crime scenes. But this hardly demonstrates a great master coverup. Had that been the intent, the site would have been sanitized. Its kinda like the OJ defense – on one hand there is a great conspiracy against OJ but on the other hand the cops were incompetent and inept. It can be one or the other but I believe you would be hard-pressed to do both.
I especially loved the comment about 3 days after 9/11 everything was trucked off to some unknown site. You do realize those were two 110 story office buildings. It took MONTHS to move all the debris. And it was moved to a site where they very well may still be sorting through shit.